ANYONE USED THE HADLOW PRO 09

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WTF
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I'm presently using Slingsht fuels and love em. In the past I had an 07 13m Fuel but didn't rate it. It was too slow and didn't have much more grunt than the 11m.
So I've been using a 14m 08 vegas which was pretty good although I don't like the short 5th line system.
So my choices are either the new 13m Fuel or the Hadlow pro.

Has anyone used both or just the hadlow as there seems to be a lack of reviews.

Cheers .. :lol:
kitesurfjim
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Hey bro

Not the 13 but i have the 11m 09 and it rocks

i had it out in 15-16 knots and i was fairly powered, weighing only 70kgs on a good day this isn't hard but i sure has power.

More power than the 08 faster than the 08 loops nicer all is good.

Only thing i will say is it does seem to over fly in the jumps but then so did the 08
but once you've flown it for a sesh or two you get used to this

all in all a sweet kite

As for fuels i have heard they stopped production now and you will struggle to get hold of one .
skyte
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I work and ride for Flexi, so this is probably a bit biased! I ride Ions mostly but spent some time last year riding the Hadlow 2009 kites.

I think the AH will differ from 08 fuel and earlier fuels in that it has a lot more grunt but a bit less boost (in the bigger sizes).
Aaron likes his kites to pull like a cable and is not to bothered about depower!

I believe (talking to Slingshot riders) that the 09 fuel has been designed to fly more like the AH kites, i.e. much more grunty. (try and PM Ali_b as he flies the fuels). I've also heard on the grapevine that some devout fuel riders do not like the new fuel as much but that is probably just because it is different and when a brand changes the direction of a popular kite, there will always be whingers and there will always be followers!

I think the AH kites are the most exciting kites I've flown... they keep you on your toes and your board skills need to be spot on to handle them powered up. Any rider harping on about C's being the only way forward and SLE's, Hybrids, BOWs being for queers has no excuse not to be flying an AH as a depowerable C is no different to a SLE, Hybrid, BOW (In my opinion, after flying AHs!)

If I were you, I would try and get a demo of each... it's the best way really.
WTF
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Thanks lads for the replies.

My style of riding is definately changing and I'm doing more and more, unhooked wakestyle stuff and I'm loving it.

I've heard bits about the 09 Fuel , but one thing that puts me off is that elasticated bungy line that they use on the release. Presently on the 07/08 Fuels I use the 5th line most of the time when I'm trying new stuff as it saves smashing the kite down hard all the time.Unless I'm going for high dangle passes when I use the suicide option.I dont think that Bungy would take repeated use.

Any idea what options are available on the Hadlow.
kitesurfjim
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I would say if your ever down near Lancing gimmie a shout and have a play on mine bro.

the hadlow flys nice on the 5th line and would suit exactly what you just mentioned.

it flys even better on the 4 line mode but be warned you have f all safety.
grap the o shit's and your kitelooping your way down the beach so 5th line i think is better for practising or in neuking winds.

But personal pref's

Check with flexi who your local dealer is they should have at least one on demo.
but as said before i takes a sesh or two to get used to it.

As said above it has no depower, and pulls friggin hard down wind, can be a mare in real bump and jump stuff.

i just edge damn hard when i get that uber powered.

it just loves taking you at mach 3.
and once your there you can't edge. so it's arse breaking before the beach.

but loops so sweet, and doesn't drop you, ( well as long as you keep it in the window)
skyte
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yeah, 5th line on the AH is best if you want a safety system... I usually run a short leash from the 5th to the chickenloop and then use a suicide leash to the chickenloop. That way if I drop the kite, it doesn't release tot he 5th but if I pop the release it does without losing the chickenloop. The 5th line gives you a little bit of relaunch assistance too.

on the 4line mode the AH needs to be ridden with a suicide leash and if you pop the safety, the whole kite goes! We were a bit unsure about this setup and this is why it comes set up on 5th line mode. Basically Hadlow rides with no Quick Release and permanently attached to his kite via a suicide leash (also with no QR!) but we couldn't release a kite like that to Jo Public. We did experiment with self landing handles, but these are not a very neat safety set up (personally I dislike the rear line landing handles). If I was flying the AH on 4 lines I would probably run a short leash to one of the front lines, set up to work as the landing handles do. Leashing out to a front line is actually a really good way to kill a kite's power without having it loop (like a rear line landing handle)

Finding a demo AH might be tricky since a lot of retailers will not stock them as they are aimed at such a small part of a niche market. I will try and find out if there is and demos planned!
mattfat1
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Yeah that fuel bungee thing aint, erm, good. But for 50squid you can set it up on the 5th line and its just the status quo with previous fuels. Even nick the centre line off your current fuel bars because its exactly the same. I cant comment on the hadlows but i know for sure that the fuels are very grunty. I got the 09 fuel 11m as my biggest kite and that has so much bottom end that i cant see a reason for buying a 13m. If you wanted the 13m fuel then i bet you wont have a problem about not being enough wind. Judging by the turn rate of the 11m the 13m wont be sluggish at all, will deff have bollogins of power. remember that you love fuels. Soz i cant comment on the hadlow kite
Hemanblob
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uhh i got a 13m 09 fuel.. siiiick ;D great bottom end, this year fuels are defo grunt munchers, tom at KIR says they dont boost as good until a 5th line is added, which is cool by me they really work well for wake style, get some boots on your board and when the gusts comes u can really put some edge in and get massive pop! I defo think theres a gap between the 11m and 13m. When im working the 11 the 13 sits and pulls like mad!

Agree the front line flag.. ive used it once in 45 knots on the 7, it worked fine, if not a little strange, kite was fine, the bungeee works, but i ride suicide the bar throw on standard bar is enough to avoid the harsh crash's. I would say my bungee is starting to wear now, not from use from rubbing in the bars centre hole. You can't beat a 5th line for safety, but the 4 line simplicity is definately where it's at especially as it relaunchs really well. Thats something AHP kite never did, that thing was terrible when it was in the water!

Would defo take a 13m fuel coz it's sweet as, but im biased ofcourse, i never liked the AHP kite :\
Karl@Brighton
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had a go on the 09 h pro just on land i felt nice, i ride the 11m fuel 09 and love it re launch is piss and solid in the air loops nice too, fukin powerfull kites great unhookes.
the 09 hadlow just feals clean really smooth i want another go on it
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The Hadlow is much faster flying than the Fuel, proably a little less practical, but i got an 09 9m here, and love it. To be honest i loved last years HP but it just didnt have the relanch cababilites This years is definatley better.


As regards to the Fuel i have been on four line ever since they came out, and although they are great, dont boost as well as last years. So i changed to 5th line, and the difference is vast. Significant boosts over 4 line, with all the wake style performance. they defiantley go as high if not higher than last years.
its taken a while because of thre shite wind we have had but overall i stil think they work beter in 5th line mode for an average joe blogs

these kites really need that 5 to hold their shape, which is why the hadlow has the extra t lines when in four line mode to stop the canopy deform, it really seems to kill the boost.


9m Fuel 20m lines http://www.vimeo.com/3773424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 48secs in, i could no way do that with 4 lines, you need that 5th


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WTF
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Thanks for all the great replies lads.

I think I'm gonna go for the Fuel, but now I'm thinkin I might get away with a 11m as my light wind kite.

I'm 85 kg , what do you think.

The other thing is, I saw Kevob out the other day on his Fuels and he had it setup on the Flexi AHP bar and lines which looked very sweet. I might do the same as I'm gettin a bit fed up of the Slingy bar eating the depower lines and the bar is a bit cluttered .

P.s sorry for the late response, but I've been offf making the most of the wind. :lol:
RichTW
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I ride the 11m fuel as my biggest kite but I only weigh 70Kgs - I have not had to miss a day yet! I have kited (just) in about 10 knots on a massive 145 x 45 Nobile plank. At 15 knots on a 134 x 40 board (with masses of rocker) it pulls like a train!

Really depends on what low end you want - I certainly do not want a 13 put it that way!
WTF
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Hi Tom, I hope you dont mind me quizzing you about this,

I was watching that video and your bar setup looks different from the standard Slingshot setup. Also does the 5th line need to be under tension and if so do you have to adjust it everytime you put some depower on.

When I saw Kevob the other day his 5th line also looked under tension.

Anyone else any ideas on alternative bar setups.

Cheers :lol:
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WTF wrote:Hi Tom, I hope you dont mind me quizzing you about this,

I was watching that video and your bar setup looks different from the standard Slingshot setup. Also does the 5th line need to be under tension and if so do you have to adjust it everytime you put some depower on.

When I saw Kevob the other day his 5th line also looked under tension.

Anyone else any ideas on alternative bar setups.

Cheers :lol:

Dave, ive got a Lent Bar, which is a bit different to the standard bar.

i use a 5th line which is slack, but is under tention when the kite is under load.


I was on Kevs the other week, he needs to slacken it off a bit :D

i used the hadlow bar with my fuel at the beginning of the year and its a superb setup up if you dont mind the lack of depower.
i alittle less practical, but a bit tidier and ligter to handle then that standard CSS bar
WTF
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Thanx Tom for the reply. :lol:
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