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abovethewater
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:31 pm

Managed to rip my fin right through the board in shallow water.
This is on a 2008 Nobile 555.

What are my options? The physical board looks to have taken some damage and split a couple of layers.
The split is running too far in the direction of the tip for my liking.

Not broken a kite board before, so advice appreciated on how to fix it DIY (if poss..) or who best to send it to.
What sort of cost am I looking at? I'm in Carmarthen.

Having googled a bit for this, I see that this is a problem with this year, and newer models came with a strip of plastic to spread the load. Where can I get these to stop it happening to the other fins? (generally shallow where I kite)

Presumably using it is a no-no as it will take in water / potentially damage it further.

Thanks.

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Superman
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:14 pm

That sucks.

Its actually quite hard to really get a sense of how deep that has gone, unless its just my eye sight.

The cheapest DIY fix has gotta be to fill the damage and the holes then take the other fins off?
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:40 pm

That sucks.
I snapped a board. Siliconed it and clamped it, then hung it on a wall in my boys room. It's all it's good for.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:59 pm

Without really seeing it it's hard to tell but it's likely to go again even if you do manage to fix it up this time. Given the advances in boards and the price of a good second hand one I'd ditch it off and look for something else, could save you missing that perfect session.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:20 am

Sorry to see.
It's not the first time I have seen this, and while a lot of the new boards have solid nylon inserts around this area, allowing the bolts to pull through without reaching the wood core, it looks like I can see some wood there. I was involved with nobile in the early years and thought that they did use nylon inserts, but it would be useful if you can confirm that there is wood exposed.

That said, my advice would be, trim it up, wash and dry it out, put some sikkaflex in there, some tape over the top and bottom and screw it tight to let it bond and set. After that, just put your fin back on with an oversized washer on the deck of the board (like a shinn or suitably large sized one to spread more load), and the board will be fine for years. In testing we regularly re-shape prototype boards past the abs, to reveal the wood core in the rails of the boards. I have seen proto boards last years like this - the wood is actually far more resilient than you would ever give it credit for, and left untreated I would expect you to have no issues for a lot longer than you would think.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:55 am

Hey, it's a bit dificult to get the full picture from your photo but that looks pretty minor to me in terms of board repair. I've completely snapped one accross the width of the board before and had it back out on the water. When iv'e ripped out inserts/fins before i just dig out all the damaged material/debris and clean up the edges and use some glass n epoxy to build it up again. Then just re-drill your fin holes after. If done properly you'll get plenty of life out of it yet. I'd say the prices of boards these days would be the motivation i needed to repair it!!!
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:34 pm

It won't cost you much in materials to repair so surely worth a go.
Take a look at http://www.boardlady.com/repairmenu.htm for an excellent guide to repair work.

And for inspiration have a look at this repair - http://www.boardlady.com/disasterpiece.htm. Simply amazing.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:26 pm

all the info you need http://www.kiteboarder.co.uk/kitesurfin ... 34#p343134" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As Mike B said but i would us epoxy for a stronger repair

WEST SYSTEM mini pack 101
http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/p ... k-101.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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abovethewater
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Wed May 01, 2013 3:39 pm

Cheers for all the feedback.

Sorry, camera is crap on my phone!

It doesn't look to have gone too deep (down to wood) other than around the physical holes, and seeing as this is a toeside tip, the board surely isn't a complete write off.

Have fixed some fairly big dings on my crappy old surfboard before, so will give it a go fixing this - I do have some epoxy putty around the place, is this going to be suitable?

In terms of painting it after sanding (never going to be able to match that pattern..), what paint is used? Don't have an array of paint around the place, so what potential small tins could I use (thinking those old airfix style pots of paint!) Is it generally sealed in afterwards?
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Wed May 01, 2013 5:22 pm

Epoxy putty will do put some tape on the good side over the damaged holes
Don’t over fill the repair with putty place some clean plastic over the repair and roll it flat (Jam Jar) leave it overnight pull the plastic off it should be nice and flat and may not need sanding drill the holes out (6.2mm) put some bigger washers on the deck, screw the fin back into place

Epoxy resin would be stronger
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Wed May 01, 2013 9:16 pm

Wouldnt even bother with the 'west system' epoxy, those little double syringe '10 minute' epoxy kits like those found in hardware stores would do the trick.
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Wed May 01, 2013 10:28 pm

Cheap epoxy is not as strong as better quality resin I am talking on a molecular structure of the resin
Slow curing free radicals makes a much stronger structure dependent on fibres used, glass /carbon etc. to achieve best results the curing process should be at a constant temperature no less than 15c
I could go more in depth but looking at such a small repair its not worth it
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Tue May 14, 2013 11:53 am

hi ,
just wondering if anyone has come across similar damage to that in image below . All the grinding of the edge in shallow water has finally caused the board to de-laminate top and bottom and split . i'm waiting on pro repair guy to get back to me but any comments or tips would be great . ImageImage
thanks
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