Cleethorpes

Berwick-upon-Tweed to Southend ~ Local info and chat.
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alopotimus
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Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:49 pm

wh155 wrote:
N Y one playing 2moro??

DW
Yeah im playing tomorrow, fortunately its in the slightly milder climate of weymouth :-D



Wemouth Bay at sunrise, Sunday 15th January 2012 -
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p.s i heard the the R.N.L.I. incident was infact chipmunk :shock:
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chipmunk
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Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:50 pm

Sorry Al I was in Sharm :lol:
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alopotimus
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Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:54 pm

been planning your alibi i see...
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chipmunk
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Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:40 pm

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jarmers
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Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:43 am

Looks like a bit of wind at the moment, any one out in the cold later today?
Marky
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Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:28 pm

Bit too cold for any kiting so stuck with surfin' the net with the central heating on :(
Anyway, thought this was funny... :lol:

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Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:04 pm

Up Date 2012Fraisthorpe Beach Power Kiting Zone
This area is used for various Power Kiting Activities.
Please follow the Power Kiting Code of Conduct.
This code of conduct was drawn up by the kiting community in partnership with East Riding of Yorkshire Council.

Riders on land and water must hold third party insurance to the value of £5,000,000.
The Council are working in the signs ASAP
Nice one guy's
http://www.kiteboarder.co.uk/kitesurfin ... 47&t=27431" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:09 pm

'Killer whale' sighted off Norfolk coast :shock:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17011462" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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last month a dead Sperm Whale
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-16377471" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:45 pm

chipmunk wrote:'Killer whale' sighted off Norfolk coast :shock:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17011462" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Good to see your getting out Mick :lol:
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Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:54 pm

Jeb Corlis getting it wrong + stills

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Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:52 pm

The guy setting the nets is Melvin. He's from Cleethorpes and lives up by the library. He say's the beach patrol and the council know all about his activities. He also does metal detecting and has found 11 bombs so far. He's after cod so he won't be setting any nets after March.
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2 years a go I got a nice hole in one of my boards which was kanckered 500.00 down :x On a positive note at least it wasnt in Me
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:56 pm

Good work Mick, what are the legalities regards the potential dangers for known water users in a kitesurfing zone?

Surely beach 'safety' has a duty of care to protect kitesurfers in the council approved kitesurfing zone?
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Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:27 pm

totally agree on that one
Adam on this one do you think that the CKC should reconvene and officially voice our concerns on the new beach hazards and if this Melvin has permission to do this and if he has insurance after all the kite zone was agreed with the council and the CKC
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Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:07 pm

I think that would be a good call Mick.

We as responsible water users encourage all riders in cleethorpes to have suitable third party insurance. Does this individual have insurance to cover us?

As a council approved kitesurfing zone which is also the training ground of a world class speed sailor who can reach speeds of upto 60mph, I find this to be a significant safety hazard.

Kitesurfing is also a known tourism draw to Cleethorpes.

In my opinion the council/beach safety not acting upon this is 'silent consent'!
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Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:33 pm

Can you get down to the beach on Sunday ? Marcus was contacted by the Environment Agency .
Good reading http://www.sacn.org.uk/Articles/Is_It_Legal.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Fixed Nets
It is interesting that under the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act (1975) the setting of any fixed net is illegal!

However Sea Fisheries Committees are able to make byelaws that ‘enable’ fixed nets to be set in their district, usually subject to place, time of year, size of mesh etc.

An important principle is that fixed nets cannot be set where they are likely to interfere with a run of migratory salmon or sea trout.

And as salmon and sea trout usually swim towards the top of the water column, near to the surface, the byelaws that enable the setting of fixed nets often require that they are set in such a way that the headline (top of the net) is at a certain depth at all times of the tide.

The depth at which the headline must be set differs from area to area.
Where this type of byelaw applies it means that it is impractical to set nets close to the beach, without falling foul of the depth of headline required.

The greatest problem with nets used inshore is often from unlicensed netting.
If the fish caught are for personal consumption, then unlicensed nets may be perfectly legal. However if the catch is sold and a powered vessel was used to set the nets, then the sale of fish caught from an unlicensed vessel is illegal. (Note, seine netting from a beach, often for mullet and bass where the net is ‘walked out’ and the catch is sold is perfectly legal, even though no licensed vessel is involved).

It is often almost impossible to bring a prosecution for the illegal sale of fish, although the recently introduced registration of buyers and sellers legislation has gone some way to making it easier

What must be remembered is that unlicensed netting, has a ‘double whammy’ on local fish stocks.

Firstly simply because of the unregulated removal of large quantities of fish from close inshore, significantly reducing the number of fish available to licensed fishermen.

Then if the fish are sold, that reduces the market available to licensed fishermen, and the price that they can obtain for their catch, leading to a reduction in earnings.

That means that the licensed fisherman must fish even harder to maintain their income, catching more fish than they would otherwise need to, reducing stocks still further.

This is one of the problems that has led SACN to propose the implementation of a ‘Golden Mile’ (see: http://www.sacn.org.uk/Articles/The_Golden_Mile.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

What constitutes ‘Illegal Netting’
Well, a whole list of things including:

- Netting with the intention of selling the catch from an unlicensed powered vessel.

- Using mesh sizes less than byelaws allow

- Taking undersized fish

- Taking fish in excess of bycatch allowance for which quota is not held

- Taking migratory fish such as salmon and trout (and eels) without a special licence

- Netting where fishing is restricted, maybe at certain times of the year

- Using a fixed net when and where no enabling byelaw exists

- Not having properly marked nets, fishing nets unattended, not having the correct depth of water above the headline at all states of the tide, all according to local byelaws.

- Not having pingers attached to prevent cetacean entanglement where this is a requirement

Who should be contacted if illegal activity is suspected?

The Marine Fisheries Agency has overall responsibility for EU and National Regulations, including enforcement of Buyers and Sellers Regulations ashore.

Contact details for local MFA offices can be found here:

http://www.mfa.gov.uk/contact/local.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Most inshore areas (out to 6 miles) are subject to regulation and enforcement by the Local Sea Fisheries Committee.

Contact Details for SFCs can be found here:

http://www.asfc.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The Environment Agency is responsible for migratory species (salmon, trout and eels) out to 6 miles, and acts as the SFC in some estuaries.

The EA can be contacted on an emergency 24 hour hotline 0800 807 060



It’s important that if you even suspect that you might have seen illegal activity taking place that you contact someone right away, and not leave it until you get home. So get the numbers that apply to your area and load them into your mobile NOW, then you will have them handy when you need them.

When making a report, make sure that you get the name of the person who takes down details, and tell them that you want to be contacted and given follow up information and feedback, so that you can be sure that the report is logged and hopefully acted upon.

Enforcement is difficult and time consuming and especially when resources are hard pressed, it is likely that you will simply be fobbed off.

It’s up to you to make a report and to insist that details are at least logged.

That way, if they keep getting reports from ‘the public’, the authorities are likely to be far more inclined to act.

When you see something worth reporting, try to get as many details as possible; place, time, state of tide etc of course, but also a good description of any boats and/or vehicles involved, including their registration number and name of the vessel, and the number and description of people involved. If you can, get some good photographs. Are vehicles taxed?

Do not tamper with any nets or equipment.

Do not place yourself at personal risk.
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