Comparing a 9m with another 9m

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JamesVegas
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Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:27 am

Sonnyrider wrote:
JamesVegas wrote:
Sonnyrider wrote:So you are really comparing two completely different models just because they say 9m on the side? :roll:

So my GF's Abarth Punto is faster than my van and it has a smaller engine size. But my KTM 950 is faster than her car with a smaller engine


I win. Yay for me

:P
Helpful.

Keeping the thread going with similar comparisons James

I also like ham sandwiches, but I find bacon sandwiches particularly tasty as well

The similarities are comparative, they come from the same source

Is that more helpful?
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Sonnyrider
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Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:44 am

Ah, James

How I have missed you

Welcome back :lol:

The comparison Billy started off with is it's a kitesurfing kite, mine is more powerful than his, blah, blah

Someone else else made a point of a 2ltr engine isn't actually a 2ltr engine
I followed on with a similar thought, my comparison was between my van, the GF's sporty car and my off road motorcycle. They are Motor vehicles, so the comparison is there
The same as how Billys kite and his mates kites are kitesurf kites

Ham and Bacon because they are from the same 'family' i.e. a pig


Talking with you is, so . . .

refreshing :roll:
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Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:23 pm

In my experience there is a massive difference in the power per meter. A while back I had a 9m obsession and a 12m RPM and I would say the the 9m had the same power in 16knots that the RPM had in 14knots. Problem with this is if you mix up different models in your quiver you can have overlap problems even though the size is different, so it is best to stick to one design across the whole quiver.
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Dragnfly
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Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:29 pm

I'd also add that technique, and personal preference can make a big difference on size selection, and generally a bigger kite can make up for poorer technique. Or some people might just prefer to have more or less power than others.


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broraboyan
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Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:34 pm

Bigger size can make up for more fun when everyone else is cursing at you from the water edge.there is a skill to flying and launching the big kites it's not easy but it's worth it.:)
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:14 am

I have never accepted that you can mix brands as a result of a few experiences. if you go back through the archives you'll find numerous examples of the difficulties of mixing-and-matching so presumably this is about picking up a kite at a price you like rather than the performance you want.

In some cases an 11 and a 9 are so close it often starts this kind of thread, designers and the manufacturers have no intension of making their models to fit with other brands in either performance or size. It will be their range of sizes that fit together with their range of performances so the only way for us not to get any surprises is to stick with one brand, maybe two brands with two kites at either end of your range of kites.

It isn't just about physical size, two identically sizes kites may well perform quite differently, so-much-so you might think one is bigger than the other. A pal on the beach often comments about his 9 not being very powerful though I bet it fits into that particular brands range quite nicely.

I also found in the past as many of you have that it's difficult to even mix different model-years because of changes the designer has made.
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Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:58 pm

I have a flexifoil neutron, it only goes up to 12m not very good as it will only begin being powered at about 20mph for me, they didn't make a bigger size in that kite.i bought a naish cult 15m and it fits in fine but they are about the same age.I know now that if I bought a 17meter kite now I know for a fact I wouldn't need my 18meter and the 15m it would easy over lap the 12
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Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:46 am

broraboyan wrote: If this is the case then you could make the mistake of buying a kite different make than your own and say you don't have a 12m and you have a 9m they could end up the same power characteristics
I had this a several years back. My quiver back then was a Flexi Atom 12m and an North Evo 9m. Both had about the same bottom end & I ended up selling the 12 cause it was never used. With more experience it's pretty obvious as the kites are very different, but as a novice, you tend to go on the printed kite size.

I now use the differences to my advantage by having C kites from 7-10m and have a more grunty Delta 12m for lighter winds.
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