Hayling Island

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Superman
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Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:42 pm

What does 'RipRap' mean Mav??????


Am I getting old or what?? :?
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mav1
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Location: Hayling Island

Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:30 pm

Haha no im just being a gimp :lol: RipRap is the technical term for the sea defence where they have loads of rocks in a pile :lol: Doing my Geography courswork on Hayling Beachfront, how cool am i :lol: :lol: :lol:
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mav1
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Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:30 pm

Killer sesh 2day tho mmmmmmmmmmmm some wind at last :lol: :lol:
Superman
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Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:59 am

Oh - well good, maybe i'm not soo old :-D

just a'little slow :roll:
t69c
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Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:29 pm

paying to ride hayling is bullshit! who had that great idea...just means more beaches will copy an soon there will be kite inspectors issuing landing tickets!! joke....
diggers
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Location: Rowlands Castle

Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:14 pm

t69c wrote:paying to ride hayling is bullshit! who had that great idea...just means more beaches will copy an soon there will be kite inspectors issuing landing tickets!! joke....
It is a private beach. There is an annual cost to use it for kitesurfing. You don't have to pay. Please do not come to Hayling.
hightimes1664
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:43 pm

HKA,

While tc69c is probably a little blunt, i know where he is coming from. It is enormously frustrating that you have gone down this route (albeit without too much of a choice). I have no doubt that you think you are acting in the best interests of kitesurfing, yet while you are ensuring kitesurfing for a loyal band of locals, it is seemingly to the detriment of those who may wish to go for a blast on a fairly irregular basis.

I kitesurfed at Hayling from 2005 having got back from living abroad. I joined your club for i think 30 quid and the BKSA for 30 quid. Living 75 minutes drive away, i got absolutely nothing from giving away 60 quid to you. I probably had about 6 sessions at Hayling in the year, not exactly value for money (especially with the obscene car park charges on top!!!!). I have never renewed my membership, not being a fan of chucking money away. Now, whenever i (rarely) sail at Hayling, i live in fear of having my lines cut by a committee member acting in my best interests.

Do you have any intent to open your location up to passing trade by offering some kind of daily rate? I would greatly love to have the option of sailing at Hayling without fear of reprisal, and i cant help feeling that there may be others in a similar situation.
diggers
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:48 pm

Daily tickets are not available and we have no plans to introduce them. If you consider £55.00 per year (total) too great a price to pay then Hayling should come off your list of spots to ride. If you want a say in club affairs then you can do so officially once you are a member. If you are still a member then you should ask for your suggestions to be on the agenda at the next AGM.

The simple fact is for any kitesurfing to take place at Hayling it does so under a licence issued to the HKA by the freeholder (at a cost). We are not arbitrarily charging riders because we feel like it. I'd love this to be a public beach with free access but it is not.

There is no suggestion that lines will be cut and that is simply spoken with clearly no understanding of how we try and enforce membership. We try to be friendly but we are a large club and being close to London do get a lot of riders with no understanding of the previous issues we have faced, no understanding of the private ownership and, unfortunately, riders who refuse to accept this. There is a limit to what we can do to enforce membership and with dealing with riders who ignore the rules set out to preserve kitesurfing here for the majority who are willing to join. Whilst we do not resort to cutting lines (ever), we certainly will not tolerate anyone who jeopardises the current arrangement.

Everyone has a choice. You want to ride at Hayling, follow the rules on our website, join the club and have a terrific time here. If not, there are plenty of other locations.
Splashdown
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:08 pm

[quote="hightimes1664"] i live in fear of having my lines cut by a committee member acting in my best interests.
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:shock: :shock: :shock:

Hi, I don't know where you got that idea from???

I can't imagine that anyone would do anything as drastic as that (you might be refused a launch but certainly nothing worse!)
hightimes1664
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Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:02 pm

I got told that by one guy a year or so ago whilst chatting to him at beachlands. since then i have been a bit twitchy! I guess i may just have to bite the bullet and pay with reluctance. just a bit unhappy that with an already expensive sport, i am now adding more to my annual spend.

Out of interest i thought beaches werent privately owned below the high tide mark, or is that an urban myth?
gillstah
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:55 am

hightimes1664 wrote:I got told that by one guy a year or so ago whilst chatting to him at beachlands. since then i have been a bit twitchy! I guess i may just have to bite the bullet and pay with reluctance. just a bit unhappy that with an already expensive sport, i am now adding more to my annual spend.
if you're so concerned about £25 per annum then why not go to poole? it's 20miles closer to you than hayling, so you're saving 40miles of fuel (about £5 or so these days) by going there.
hightimes1664 wrote: Out of interest i thought beaches werent privately owned below the high tide mark, or is that an urban myth?
that's the rule generally but hayling is an exception.

paul.
WARLOCK
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:40 am

I used feel the same way about the £25 membership fee, but then when you consider we are all riding about £2000 worth of equipment and easliy spend that in 1 session at teh pub........ what's £25 to ride all year at Hayling ?


HighTimes1664,

If Hayling did offer you a daily rate that would probably be £5 a day, then you say you ride Hayling about 6 times a year that makes it £30, at hte current membership fee of £25, you'd be better off paying the membership.

Will anyone be at Hayling this morning, I will probably be there at 9:30am.
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Zarmple
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:02 am

Since the subject of hayling island has cropped up again...
Dare I ask how the amount payable was arrived at?
It seems that Hayling, and Portland are the most expensive out of all the 25 beach Clubs, yet at least Portland allows day useage for a small fee of £2 (which is payable directly to the Harbour Master).
All other clubs are cheaper, what is it about Hayling that makes it the priciest?

I think there is always a worry that if all beaches were to become "clubs" then people who have to travel will be forced to be members of many beaches, which would be costly, and at present there is no option for membership to multiple beaches
diggers
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:15 am

This is a discussion for the AGM not an open forum where anyone, including non-members, feel they should have a say.

We will ensure the AGM this year is on a weekend and at a reasonable time to allow members to attend. We'll try and combine it with the next social evnet/demo day.

You can see the summary of the club's accounts and ask any questions about fees, right of access etc then.

There are other posts recently in this forum where I have explained the rights of access issue (including dredging rights). We also now have a membershipo FAQ page which explains what the fee covers.

http://www.hka.org.uk/FAQMembership.aspx
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kitejunky
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Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:49 am

how many members does HKA have currently?
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