North Kiteboarding Click Bar - The Gamechanger!

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Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:31 am

Good morning

During a quick trawl through social media this morning, I came across North's new click bar, many times
Its being called "The Gamechanger" which is a fair claim to make these days

http://www.northkiteboarding.com/produc ... click-bar/

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[bbvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOe-udoAOEk[/bbvideo]

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Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:50 pm

I don't get it...£519 a pop too I've heard!
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Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:10 pm

Looks like a nice idea, very complicated way of doing something I don't use very often. Can't see it lasting as long as a simple webbing system though.
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Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:16 pm

Moving parts are always a great idea on kitebars :roll:

In reality you should not have to keep adjusting the depower, just set it and leave it alone, only in emergencies should you need to depower a kite that much, or maybe when on land and to have to repeatedly twist that thing to power it up.....ball ache IMO. Can't wait to see people trying to grab the end of their bar on mega windy days, looks like an accident waiting to happen.

Good of North to try something new though.
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Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:50 am

I don't think it's for me! Like JGTR says, the thought of grabbing the end of the bar like that on a windy day leaves me cold. Especially that underhand grip they show in the vid. I can't stand seeing people hold bars like that. If it goes tits up and you are holding the bar like that I don't think it's going to end well.

Do you think they do left and right hand versions?! Or can you only TRIM ("power" & "depower" is another pet hate. Getting grumpy in my old age!) with your right hand?

I do like the clean appearance if the bar. But am quite happy with the traditional trim system on my Diamond bar. And to be honest, you get enough range by sheeting in and out for most conditions on kites these days, don't you? I usually only trim for unhooking.
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Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:51 am

But hey - we are talking about it, so that's a good thing for North!
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Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:42 am

Yeah bang on. launch kite on any day never mind if its super windy and realise you need to trim the kite in and grab the end of the bar is recipe for disaster. Salt is gona take care of any moving parts on the bar so can imagine a system that grinds to a halt after a decent amount of use.

As per the stupid cost of bars now I don't know why companies share IP to get the cost down. it's a niche product in a niche sport and the tool up to produce these items keeps prices high. Ridiculous situation in the sport.
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Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:50 am

Stupid comment!
bri wrote:Yeah bang on. launch kite on any day never mind if its super windy and realise you need to trim the kite in and grab the end of the bar is recipe for disaster.
If you think you need to grab the end of the bar then you haven't even bothered to read/listen to how this one works.

You don't "trim it in" if its windy, the mechanism works on the back lines and lets them out with a simple push of a button

Pushing a button is far easier than pulling a line through a cleat (which by the way, can also wear over time with sand)

If you haven't trimmed your kite appropriately before launching you have already made a mistake or chosen the wrong size anyway

Instead of taking such a negative view of change, try it for yourself before making ill informed comments
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Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:54 pm

I agree that cleats can wear with time but they're very cheap and easy to replace comapared to all of the gubbins I imagine are necessary for this bar. They are not likely to jam either which is a likely outcome for a device like this in a salty sandy environment. I mean it looks nice though but it just seems like a sledghammer to crack a nut.
And five hundred and what?
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:19 pm

Sorry bud but completely disagree. Change ha, do you know what the industry could do with changing, is licensing IP across the industry for bars so tooling up for niche products for small runs didn't put unit costs for product that used to cost around £150 is now in the region of £500. I can remember buying a new 12m current yr for around 750, which now run at over 1500. The industry is a joke at the moment.

All these promo videos are done by pros often in near perfect conditions, like watching a relaunch video of a new kite in waist deep water in 15 knots. Any mechanism that encourages users to grab, feel for, fiddle with the end of the bar is mental.

Kiting since 03 and can't count the amount of times I've launched in a sketchy area and had to immediately depower the kite. My current system takes me less than a second from the centre of the bar.

Scenario. Lancing beach by the groyne, someone launches back to water, immediately overpowered and loses grip of the bar, then to depower the kite they grab the end of the bar to find the quick release button and in doing so actually grabs the end, that grab loops the kite and lofts the kiter towards the groyne.

Me I'll stick with old arses on this thread who've already stated this system isn't for them for the reasons mentioned.
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:26 pm

I'm with Bri on this one. All these new fancy bars seem like gimmicks to me. Seems like the industry is just trying to justify the insane costs the merchandise they are asking. It's good to see them trying to innovate, but when the cost of that innovation is off the scaleI'm just not buying. This solution doesn't seem like a particularly good one to me, but I'll wait for people with more money than sense to give it a whirl and see how they go.

Sadly this seems to be the way with most industries, once the initial burst of innovation has happened, then it is difficult for the manufactures to justify users buying a new item every year or two because its so much better than the last one. The Vendors resort to cranking the price up and adding pointless features that they claim are revolutionary. Just wondering how long before glow in the dark kites with port and starboard LEDs start showing up.
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:35 pm

Apparently " we test kite .com" have had this bar for a while. They have been going out of there way to destroy it. packing it with sand etc etc.
So far they cant fault it. !!!
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:18 pm

Ocean Rodeo have just brought a similar bar out, not sure how similar as Ive hot had chance to look yet
I''m not sold yet, bar and line sets are pricey as it is and have been the source of much debate on this forum over the years and I'd rather buy a different surfboard than another bar, but thats just me
I'm all for innovation though, we didn't get the equipment we have now without it, but I also appreciate functionality with and through simplicity!

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Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:37 pm

Game Changer
The one interest of whom a Player most desires, and always shall desire into the foreseeable future. The interest is good enough for a Player to give up his 'game' and change their situation dramatically - in the hope this new adaption will be ideal for the new interest.
See That £500 bar over there - Thats my Game Changer.

I'd give it all up for her....if I'm
Sponsored...
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Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:54 am

Has anyone had this on a demo yet?
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