Shinn 2016 Thread- the new spring release boards

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Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:29 pm

Here's Kiteworld's test of the Ronson, and it's very impressive as we would expect.

Kiteworld Test;

SHINN RONSON 136

TEST TEAM NOTES:

We were intrigued by the Ronson as Shinn already have several boards that sit in the ‘freeride’ category. Has Mark found something new? We’ve tested the Monk and the ADHD for each of the last few seasons and the Ronson is expected to sit between the two.

Shinn boards typically offer a genuinely unique ride feel in a crowded twin-tip market. Perhaps they’re not the most robustly reinforced or most channeled for the hardcore wakestyle warrior, but instead Shinn boards are pushing at the forefront of twin-tip kitesurfingspecific designs. The Ronson is well made and you can be confident in its strength. It’s also not the heaviest twin-tip, but equally not the lightest. It’s sits nicely in the middle and can be ridden in straps or boots, but more geared towards straps.

Shinn’s colours and designs are always unique. Perhaps we’d spray paint a ‘B’ in front of Ronson to be extra gangster, but the Ronson’s look certainly matches its aura. It’s fun, and a bit 70s porn star and you can almost hear the wah-wah guitar pedal if you stand close enough.

The pads and straps have been upgraded this year to integrate the SP Boarding ratchet system which is really easy to loosen off and tighten while you’re riding. There are more fully supportive and grippy systems on the market (this only has one plane of adjustment across the top of the foot), but in general the feeling is soft and comfortable for all our feet. Some riders may just want a bit more technical support for more areas of the foot.

The detail in the bottom of the board illustrates a lot of thought went into this design. Featuring two concaves with a flat section in the middle, the concaves also don’t simply run all the way through. Instead they have been beautifully blended and taper into a flat section just in front of the fins and then there’s more lovely detailed mini-channels in the end section as well.

Combine all that with a very comfortable outline and a very responsive but yet absorbing flex and the Ronson provides an experience quite unlike anything else. Bringing the comfort of the Monk into a board with serious performance, importantly for a freeride twin-tip, the Ronson isn’t overly geared towards unhooked performance that would make it feel stiffer and more cumbersome. There’s balanced performance across a range of conditions and for a large cross-section of riders.

The Ronson isn’t the fastest board we’ve ridden, but it has more than enough speed. The key to it is that it’s constant speed. You’re often having to use your back foot a lot to deal with all the white water when riding in a rough ocean, but when your legs stop working so well after a long session, the Ronson doesn’t make you work very hard to continue having fun. You don’t need to ride aggressively, so in difficult conditions you can stand tall, push your weight through the tail of the board and get impressive response. There’s also less of a need to bury as much rail to get upwind as the bottom shape does some of the work for you.

The 136 is the smallest size of the Ronson and comes with 43mm fins (the 138 and 140 come with 53mm fins which offer a stronger bite). We are big fans of this smaller fin set up on this smaller board though as the 136 is super easy to get your edge in for more grip. The smaller fins offer a lovely level of looseness alongside that and there’s also the added grip that you get from the bottom shape.

Although loose, there’s no skipping out and instead the Ronson has a consistent drive but also feels like you’re snowboarding on powder. When you touch down the Ronson is very forgiving as it grips when ridden flat, which also means it’s a beauty for carving into a wave face. Some boards offer very little feel underfoot for that, whereas the Ronson has a great sensation of grip in the base.

Typical of Shinn, you’ll feel like you’re riding on a layer of air between the board and the water. Some people might want a bit more of a raw feeling from their board, but think of the Ronson like the equivalent of a well-bridled kite, offering lots of control and a smooth experience. There’s less rocker than the ADHD so it’s quicker and the upwind performance is less technical. Compared to the Monk, the stiffer section in the middle feels firmer, but if you’re coming off a Monk you’ll be used to the ultimate in chocolatey-ness. You’ll enjoy the step up to the Ronson though, and not at the expense of losing too much of that familiar comfort.

SUMMARY:

The Ronson provides a really balanced feel and very stable speed platform with loads of feel in the back foot from a beautiful flex pattern. The Ronson is bang on the money when it comes to blending comfort and constant speed management with increased freestyle pop and landing security when you need it. If you’re wanting to ride in boots, we’d recommend stepping up in board size.

KW LIKED:

Genuine high performance but above all makes difficult conditions comfortable, which adds so much to a rider’s confidence.

KW WOULD CHANGE:

A little more contouring of the foot pad or an extra area of adjustment in the strap, perhaps for front and back tilting adjustment. Hardcore freestylers will be used to more raw pop and a stiffer ride.

RONSON BALANCE POINTS:
Build quality: 8.5
Fixtures and fitting: 8
Speed: 8
Pop: 7
Drive: 8.5
Flex: 7
Comfort: 8.5
Looseness: 6.5
Grip: 9
Upwind: 8.5
Slider proof: NA
Boots applicable: Yes
Freeriding: 8
Freestyle: 8
Ease of use: 8
SIZES:
140 x 43, 138 x 42 and 136 x 41cm
www.shinnworld.com
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Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:12 pm

Hi Mike,

Whats the timeline for details on the spring collection?

The Jackson foil board has my attention, looking for specs on the trim track.

Cheers.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:44 pm

Were looking to get the first Jacksons and foils in by the end of April at the latest.
The specs for the trim track - I'll get them, though I know they are bades around the same geometry that we used on the Zeeko last year, with a forward and backward adjustment ability.
Everything is coming out of the factory now...

edit -
pinbot 135 in (rest due soon)
king gee's in,
Bronq Q's due end april - still the last bits being finished

email me if you want a copy of the presentation pdf - mike@ktwodistribution.com
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Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:49 am

The full presentation pdf is available to download here;

http://ktwodistribution.com/images/medi ... Summer.pdf
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:23 am

Modle P has got my attention
Been off the water for a while for a few reasons, back at it this year and on a foil

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Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:21 am

Model P is very interesting.
I always thought that a shorter mast was a way of reducing the funk of learning, but I've been told that there is a much better way... Model P wing was developed as a super stable, easy sup wing - capable of foiling under 10kph, handling well with extreme resistance to stall at slow speeds.
Turns out it's not that slow, but an absolute gift for either mastering intricate moves, or learning to ride.
I've been told it was tested on an intermediate twin tip rider who had to walk back upwind 50% of the tie, and within an hour he was up and sustaining long runs.
Should be here end of April...
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:43 am

Mike, whats your thoughts on a dedicated foil board over something like the El Stubbo? and are the Shinster and el stubbo compatible with the new foils, if they are I assume the foil kit will be needed, but obviously not needed on the Jackson?

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Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:52 pm

Tony wrote:Mike, whats your thoughts on a dedicated foil board over something like the El Stubbo? and are the Shinster and el stubbo compatible with the new foils, if they are I assume the foil kit will be needed, but obviously not needed on the Jackson?

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The El stubbo and the Shinnster are compatible with the new foils using the same foil plate that we used last year. The new Shinn system uses the same inserts and bolts as the Zeeko Alloy we were using last year - so everything is cross - compatible.

The new Jackson (in two sizes) is a foil only board from shinn. As such it's stiffer, and doesn't need a foil plate - it bolts straight onto the foil via an adjustment track. Just having the board and the foil removes the need for the plate which saves weight and money. As such this year's complete foil package is cheaper...

As to the value of the stbbo and shinnster as a stand alone board - well the shinnster has a huge following, the stubbo was used 95% on the foil, so it's a personal thing.
If the answer to which is the best at foil use - the answer is unquestionably Jackson... so I would go jackson and foil as a complete unit..
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:34 pm

So, is the new foil a copy of the Zeeko or something completely new?
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:05 am

According to Mark himself here:

http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 9&start=10

Its all new.
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:49 pm

^^Thanks, I don't frequent the site. But sounds good.
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:21 am

Prices?
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:50 pm

Sonnyrider wrote:So, is the new foil a copy of the Zeeko or something completely new?
Completely new.
We were familiar with zeeko - it won all the tests last year, but the shinn is completely different wings, fuselage, mast, - everything is 100% shinn built in the shinn factory - not a single component shared.
Independent tests have come back with step up from the zeeko.. (which we were understandably happy about)
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:01 pm

PeaBody wrote:Prices?

full RRP details here;
http://www.ktwodistribution.com/shinn/hydrofoil

and here;
http://www.ktwodistribution.com/shinn/h ... ccessories

basically - Jackson £449
hydrofoil - £825

no plate needed so cheaper and much lighter than last year (alloy foil not that much heavier than zeeko carbon so I heard)
mounting geometry same as zeeko so you can switch around with this years and last years...
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:47 pm

Hi guys, I'm in need of a new twin tip and I'm very interested in the Shinns, especially the new line up. I need something to replace my current board which is a Naish Thorn 135X43 (I think) which is from 2009, always liked it but it does have a few problems. One of which is the flex, little too much and it twists slightly when loaded which I'm sure doesn't help me much.
I'm heavier than I want to be at just over 100kg but I don't want a lightwind board as I use the strapless for that, so really only for powered up freeride and jumping. I would say the biggest things I'm looking for in a twin is good pop and nicely cushioned landings, forgiving would be nice. Easy upwind is a nice to have but I think most modern boards don't really have an issue wuth that. I've always preffered wider boards.

So I was looking at the Pinbot and the Bronq, the blurb for the pinbot seems like it's designed with me in mind whereas the bronq blurb just doesn't make any sense. Whats it going on about? Just looking at the shapes and I'm instantly drawn to the pinbot but will I be disappointed if I buy that then try the bronq? I mean they both look great but is the bronq as efficient as the pinbot, I do prefer the look of the pinbot too, but I'm not buying it to look at. I also think the extra length of the pinbot will help, does it actually go any earlier though?

Sorry loads of questions, I know I could really do with trying them both, but to find a day where I could do this seems difficult. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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