I was thinking of upgrading from a 2015 Monk, 42 wide. Love it, but have been thinking of going down a size to the 41. I pick kite size for powered riding out of preference most of the time, so I was thinking of going smaller. I'd be no heavier than around 85-87kg on the water, so as you'll be aware, I'm right at the bottom of the range for a 42 Monk. Reading what you said about the new Monk, suggests a tad more low down drive anyway. Also, I rarely have the luxury of flat water, around 80% of my time, it's just chopped up water states. I feel smaller might be better when powered up in chop?
I also started downsizing my twin tips widths since i bought a Woo. Ended up on a 40wide bronq at 84kg. You can take more power, with more speed on them and when wound you do go higher. My stock size Monk was always 41, but now I would probably take a 40.
These days (with foil use) any lightwind days are lapped up trying to perfect the new challenge, so it had to be 20kts before i bust out a 12 and something small and grippy.
What you write above about Ronson, has spiked an interest I had when I first read about it. Especially when you say it's ousted your personal favourites! I remember how taken you were with the 41 Bronq.. Ronson must be pretty good!
Yeah - the difference in grip was impressive - though the bronq is crisper, the Ronson has way more low end, upwind ability and edge (like an Ultrasonic) but without the burn or inability to crab and shed when you threw in the towel on a powered run. The Ultrasonic was like an ice skate - loose the rail and your in for pain, but the Ronson, more like the monk, has an ability t drift the rail that enables you to feather a gust and then reattach after it's gone. I do love the monk and Bronq for that...
So the Ronson has the butter ability of Monk and Bronq when you need it but the rail of the Ultrasonic when you need that!
I did ride Ultrasonic a couple of seasons ago but thought it just a bit too far into freestyle/stamp pop/unhooked territory for what I do. Therefore, I guess I categorised Ronson as the new Ultrasonic. I unhook when landing the kite, that's about it!
Mostly I'm very powered blasting around, carving, boosting, general freeride, 'oldschool' if you will.. Sounds all 'irresponsible' Monk doesn't it?
Irresponsible and the majority style these days - plus with the resurgence of big air - the way forward
So the Ronson is nothing like the Ultrasonic in my eyes. As far as the range goes you could argue that it's the current closest, but in reality very different. It's got lots of pop though - and (for me) are real carve and snatch that's great for critical loading of the line just before boost, and great release too. I'm asking Mark when they are making a 40 wide and a carbon version
carved1 wrote:However, looking at Ronson's plan shape, plus reading as much as I've been able to, it did/does sound (and I'm sure you hate all these armchair theories) a bit closer to Monk than Ultrasonic was.. Hopefully you'll understand what I mean when I say I sometimes wish I had just that bit more 'feedback' from the Monk at times. I did appreciate that even with ultrasonic. There's just that certain feeling of 'detachment' at times with Monk.
i agree - The monk is like a traction controlled car - hugely capable, but it' not you that's doing the riding/driving - it's the computer / flex and shaping. Ideal for 99% of riders - and it makes heroes of many (and the only thing you can boost on when the conditions turn to tick chop). For those that want more feedback we go to the Bronq - this is exactly what it is. A monk with more feel and feedback.
The Ronson for sure is closer to the monk - probably 2/3 monk, 1/3 ultrasonic, but it does have a distinctly different feel. The front rail sits deeper, the stance more aggressive (like the ultrasonic) but it has even if not slightly front foot bias (I always favoured my back foot on the U/S. It feels soft and grippy at the same time. No doubt not a 4x4 as the monk but compliant enough in the nasty bits between ramps, but unlike the Monk and Bronq, you have that rail drive and pop of the Ultrasonic.
carved1 wrote:When you get some time, would you mind elaborating on your thoughts regarding Ronson vs Monk please?
This sentence from your comments above especially: "This is unique in the range. It's an easier board to get around on than the Monk, but has the potential to way out perform it in the hands of an expert - and thus, it's has massive appeal."
Would you be talking in a more freestyle focussed train of thought, or possibly in a more general freeriding sense also?
For sure in freestyle - with the right hands it's a WAY more capable freestyle board than the Monk, as good a real world freestyle board as you could ever hope to find, but it's better for experienced oldschool riders in my view. Monk is great, dont get me wrong - but if you are savvy you'll get a lot more from the Ronson if you like leaving the water.
carved1 wrote:Also, being a bit of a speed nut, did you notice any difference in speed Monk v Ronson? One Ronson review over on Kiteforum suggested it was faster than Monk.. In reality, that aspect is not so important to me as control and feedback at speed, plus the ability to 'go round corners' without losing too much energy or skipping out. (obviously easier on flat vs chop I know)
This is always so subjective -
It feels more athletic because at low power you can engage more rail drive and go faster - so it feels fast - plus it HAMMERS upwind, and that brings a lot more apparent wind, which makes it feels fast. The word faster however, would really mean racetrack. For that you would need a gps, and your talking about raw speed, or in my world, as fast as you can go on a dead beam reach, while still having enough grip in the the tank for an unsustainable last hoik on the rail to carve pop into a woo number.
I think in this case - speed plus the additional carve pop, when chasing a woo number the Ronson has it - most certainly when you are under 100% powered up.
I think in a downwinder race, the Monk would be, (as has always been) untouchable. It's cheating!
Hope that helps!