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Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:51 am

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The 2010 Lüderitz Speed Challenge will be the first event in the history of speed sailing to include the three different sailing disciplines - boat, windsurf and kitesurfing.

Namibia will host it from the 4th to the 31st of October 2010.

Also, the newest addition is a channel of 700m in length, 10m in width and 1m in depth, which will be dug in the "Second Lagoon", one of the fastest kiteboarding spots in the world.

51.36 knots is the record to beat. All eyes are on l’Hydroptère, the hydrofoil boat.

Sebastien Cattelan(Genetrix Kites), speed kitesurfer and organizer of the Luderitz Speed Challenge 2010 believes the event will bring new world records.

The World Sailing Speed Record Council (WSSRC) will be sanctioning the event.
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:30 pm

60mph and if you fall you will land on sand?

no thanks.
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:04 am

only a French f***ker would think of organising an event so dangerous and then charging €1000 a week to enter.

I wish i could afford to go again it's an amazing place.
ronnie
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:06 am

The channel is going to give the windsurfers their best location yet.
The channel is dangerous - Jerome Bila broke his back after landing on the sand there -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2enC1FzIyWQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The width of the channel is small, but it may be that if they can invent a quick enough release for the kite, they could stay in the channel - like you have a leash from your wrist to a pin above the bar on the powerline and as you take your hands away from the bar, the kite is released.
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:00 pm

davo wrote:only a French f***ker would think of organising an event so dangerous and then charging €1000 a week to enter.

I wish i could afford to go again it's an amazing place.
1000 yoyo's is crazy! And all you get for this is what, a rash vest?

One way to keep the competition away/kill it?
ronnie
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:15 am

Tone wrote:60mph and if you fall you will land on sand?

no thanks.
Seb has already reached 71.5 mph in a tiny channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2tNH4w4 ... r_embedded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:54 am

i thought speed records in shallow water were not eligible for records, as there is a shockwave bouncing of the bottom that changes the hydrodynamics of the craft.

i'm sure there was something about this in the olympics recently
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:24 pm

http://www.gps-kitesurfing.com/default. ... StartRow=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.gps-kitesurfing.com/default. ... 1&val=9597" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
OK its old News
NOW, the WSSRC uses string, buoys and old tyres to measure water depth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo9xzj8w ... r_embedded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlo88g3J ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
WSSRC Newsletter No 156 Water depth rule 05/07/08
http://www.sailspeedrecords.com/wssr-ne ... 07/08.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:57 pm

Afro wrote:i thought speed records in shallow water were not eligible for records, as there is a shockwave bouncing of the bottom that changes the hydrodynamics of the craft.

i'm sure there was something about this in the olympics recently
The WSSRC rule is the water depth has to be more than half the static immersed beam of the craft in a stationary position which translates to 18 cm for kite records.

But if you still want to sail in any depth of water you can go for the GPS world record in water as shallow as you like but this is isn't recognized by the sailing world even though Seb has already smashed anything else that has been done by anyone else
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:51 pm

ronnie wrote:The channel is going to give the windsurfers their best location yet.
The channel is dangerous - Jerome Bila broke his back after landing on the sand there -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2enC1FzIyWQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The width of the channel is small, but it may be that if they can invent a quick enough release for the kite, they could stay in the channel - like you have a leash from your wrist to a pin above the bar on the powerline and as you take your hands away from the bar, the kite is released.
at 100+ kph you would never have a chance to slow down, you would bounce on the sand straight away and that would be that!
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Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:43 pm

Tone wrote:
ronnie wrote:The channel is going to give the windsurfers their best location yet.
The channel is dangerous - Jerome Bila broke his back after landing on the sand there -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2enC1FzIyWQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The width of the channel is small, but it may be that if they can invent a quick enough release for the kite, they could stay in the channel - like you have a leash from your wrist to a pin above the bar on the powerline and as you take your hands away from the bar, the kite is released.
at 100+ kph you would never have a chance to slow down, you would bounce on the sand straight away and that would be that!
That would depend on the direction they were travelling. They would start by running along the upwind edge of the 10m wide channel, so if they were crashing just slightly downwind of that direction of travel, which seems fairly common, they could have quite a long distance to bounce on the water.
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:04 am

ronnie wrote:
Tone wrote:
ronnie wrote:The channel is going to give the windsurfers their best location yet.
The channel is dangerous - Jerome Bila broke his back after landing on the sand there -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2enC1FzIyWQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The width of the channel is small, but it may be that if they can invent a quick enough release for the kite, they could stay in the channel - like you have a leash from your wrist to a pin above the bar on the powerline and as you take your hands away from the bar, the kite is released.
at 100+ kph you would never have a chance to slow down, you would bounce on the sand straight away and that would be that!
That would depend on the direction they were travelling. They would start by running along the upwind edge of the 10m wide channel, so if they were crashing just slightly downwind of that direction of travel, which seems fairly common, they could have quite a long distance to bounce on the water.
no offence but you haven't been kiting long, have you?
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:47 am

Tone wrote: no offence but you haven't been kiting long, have you?
No offense taken - experience is the main educator. True, I haven't kited much, but I do put a lot of value on what experienced kiters say.
They are going to kite in a 10m wide channel cut in the sand. I was just trying to suggest a way they could do it safer.

eg. It looked to me that if Alex had been able to release the kite here as soon as he lost the edge by pulling his hands from the bar, he would have not gone much wide of his original path?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi4bLaWlDyA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:06 am

I completely agree that a safer way of letting go is needed for doing runs in that kind of channel but at that speed you skip like a stone..

I used to windsurf a lot and at west kirby I lost it at nearly 40knots, I skipped like a stone for about 50m, on my back.... as soon as you hit sand at that speed you would be sent into a spin and that would be it, broken arms, legs, necks etc...

that run is suicide and it will only be a matter of time before someone comes a cropper...

But ultimate glory never comes easy, or safe.
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