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Steve(Bear)
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Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:10 am

I can negotiate waves if approaching them head on e.g


VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Waves
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| Direction of travel.

But I am struggling if I run along the front of the wave e.g.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Waves
--------> Direction of travel.

Any tips.
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Endas13
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Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:29 pm

Are you talking about decent size waves or the shore line mush?
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waverider
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Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:01 pm

Steve(Bear) wrote:But I am struggling if I run along the front of the wave e.g.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Waves
--------> Direction of travel.

Any tips.
This one takes a bit of practice Steve, also, a slight bias in your line of travel makes a world of difference. It also makes a lot of difference between 1 to 2 foot shore break, 3 to 4 foot break or an out-back swell.

I'm self-taught via getting it wrong and eventually getting it right so lets assume you're dealing with 1 to 2 foot, you need a lot of power on tap together with speed, bare-off to pick-up speed and then at the crucial moment harden up and ollie your board with the kite a little higher and then throw the kite forward, get it wrong and you get knocked-off, get it nearly right and you end-up floundering and coming to a standstill.

I'm still a bit slow on this maneuver though I had the benefit of comparing my style with Martyn Hoggs very smooth and speedy attack, even he gets caught-out though his style did give me a direction, plenty of speed and power at just the right moment.

If it's white water then you need to flatten the board a little as you pile the power-on, best if you team-up and watch someone.
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chrisdb
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Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:55 pm

Everything that Waverider said but the thing that helped me most when learning to deal with annoying wave angles is concentrating on looking a bit further ahead than normal and forming a 'plan' as to where is best to get over the wave/mush. Sometimes bearing off to get past the worst stuff then ollying (spell) over the close out is easier than negotiating a clean wave face.

You do need to be nicely powered to get yourself out of tight situations.
Steve(Bear)
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Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:28 am

Cheers Guys.

@Endas13 TBH its proably more a swell, was at camber staurday waves where maybe a few feet at most.

@wave rider and chrisdb
Cheers guys I think I get the idea, sounds like I need to learn to read the waves better and time it so I get get my board postion right so the waves don't knock it sidwards then pop over the wave.

I had great fun in the surf at camber on saturday, but still learning so was confidant enougth to go out past the waves so lost a lot of ground and ended up down wind. Fortunatly theer is is a nice channel that fills up with flat water so I can tack back down the beach.
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waverider
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Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:15 am

chrisdb wrote:concentrating on looking a bit further ahead than normal and forming a 'plan'
:-D :-D It's no joke Chris, this has been a huge problem for me, more-so during the last six months when my vision got so bad that my 'event-horizon' was about 6 metres.

Dealing with shore break, particularly on Newgale, the wave period is very unpredictable and we have a variety of rips, this all requires a clear and far-seeing event horizon together with quick-thinking, presence of mind and decisive action. Most of these skills are a bit thin-on-the-ground for me though I do fairly well through familiarity and practice.

Another point I forgot to mention was board choice, I have found that one of my boards that doesn't go up-wind particularly well excels when dealing with rapidly changing shore break though because it's so power hungry the benefits are often lost by me ending-up back on shore.

For me two boards work very well, the Skywalker Dimitri Pro 135 X 47 and the Hana Crew 120 X 43.
spewing
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:11 pm

I know this isnt a quick fix but if you learn to surf you will spend a lot of time inside the surf line and will become very good at predicting what a wave is likley to do next. This will help you to pick the spot that you get over the wave and in the long term wil make your wave rideing better.

Kev
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Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:39 pm

The Main thing u need to remember above all when waveriding is asentialy you are surfing, you should be able to pump your board to great speeds down the line on a wave without using your kite what so ever...

You should try not to start a wave in front of it allways try to drop in from the back pick your position of pocket ect this generating the speed..

When droping into a wave toeside never go all the way to the bottem if you dont think you are going to make it back up again.. go say 2/3 rd's of the waydown and then pump the face of the wave by tracking down the wave and back up again and so on you will feel your board being locked into the face with the rite angle of tack... Then when u feel you have enough speed do A Cutback or whatever do it, remembering to allways make it back up the wave again. (so's u dont get munched).
This is the key to good surfing, get yourself a few surfing videos and watch the style and position on the wave and how they generate speed and lose speed.

IT'S ALL IN THE LEG'S...

Hope this is of some use
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sshorehg
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:11 pm

wind direction to the waves make a difference i find personally on surfboard .

wind cross shore to waves , i find i need more kite power to get in and keep the kite powered during turns .

wind cross on to waves i need less kite power to get in and sometimes have issues with kite depower being to powered to get back up the face , then maybe thats being on c's :| .

then cross offshore then all is dreamy creamy ,no issues and the waves are awesome and its theres no issues
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