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Sonnyrider
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Tue May 27, 2014 12:25 pm

OK, long story, hopefully made short

I had my TT stolen from my local beach back in April :cry:
After much watching of sites etc. to see if it came up for sale came to nothing

Then 10 days ago, at the same beach walking back to my van. I walk past a guy with my board :shock:
He says he found it in the shallows and no-one around it, so . . . :roll:

He says it wasn't theft, he found it. His mates say, he wouldn't steal from you.

Well, shock horror, what he did was theft. FACT

So, the board was reported as stolen to the police and a claim was made for my board

I've just got off the phone to the Police and they want the name of the guy (I do have this) so they can prosecute for theft

Now this guy has no remorse or any kind of morals regarding this situation. No apology, nothing :evil:

What would you do?
Too Much Wind
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Tue May 27, 2014 12:58 pm

I would offer him something for finding it. If he refused that then i would inform him that despite what he believes he is comitting theft and that he is leaving me no choice but to report it to the police for them to deal with. Out of interest which beach is this so we all know to be wary about leaving unattended kit.

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Tue May 27, 2014 1:22 pm

Did you get it back then?

Tough call this is, I'd feel unsettled, too. Were you still on the beach at the time of the "theft", or did you, by mistake, forgot it and left it there? Is he a kiter himself? Have you ever seen him at the beach before?

If I was “the guy” who “found" your board, I would first check the board for any contact, then look around, talk to some kiters on the beach who might have an idea who it belongs to,or take it with me (if local-ish spot) and post “lost & found” / check “I lost my board!” post on a social media, (not sure if I would contact police for “lost & found?”) etc.

Something doesn’t add up. But as long as you’re reunited with your board, that’s what should matter the most to you. I second on TMW's suggestion on offering "founder's fee" or something to minimise any bitterness or tension. Whether to accuse him of theft or not is another matter, and frankly not worth your effort and stress; report him, if you wish, and leave it to the law enforcer to decide (check out the Theft Act 1968 if you are cusious on how they might process this…)
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rakeem15
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Tue May 27, 2014 2:20 pm

Sonnyrider wrote:He says he found it in the shallows and no-one around it, so . . . :roll:

He says it wasn't theft, he found it.
Whether he likes it or not he's in possesion of your property.

I'd offer him the stark choice of a cheeky tenner for his troubles or a criminal record for handling stolen goods.
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JGTR
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Tue May 27, 2014 2:27 pm

If I found a board I'd make the utmost effort to find the owner, I'd contact the police, local shops, kiters and forums.

The fact he did nothing and when you told him that it's your board and he didn't give it straight back shows that's he's a bit of a scumbag.

Give his details to the police, let them sort it out. Doubt he'll get a criminal record as they can't prove anything but if he admits he found it, which he has, he's breaking the law if he keeps it. Plus if you do t report him you're basically letting him get away with it.
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rakeem15
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Tue May 27, 2014 2:32 pm

JGTR wrote:Give his details to the police, let them sort it out. Doubt he's get a criminal record as they can't prove anything but if he admits he found it, which he has, he's breaking the law if he keeps it.
You're probably right but if not a conviction then a police caution at least which is bad enough. Both are things that you would be asked to disclose when applying for a job or a travel visa to the USA for example.

It blows my mind that this guy honestly thinks he should do anything but say 'mea culpa' and hand it back.
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JGTR
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Tue May 27, 2014 2:40 pm

It blows my mind that this guy honestly thinks he should do anything but say 'mea culpa' and hand it back.
Exactly
bri
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Tue May 27, 2014 3:08 pm

I suspect the old bill will give him an ultimatum either give the board up or take it further, if you want your board back then I'd give them his details. Not sure how the law works with Salvage rights but if you had a chat with the old bill and say you'll offer a reward for finding the board then that sounds pretty fair to me.
pierre
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Tue May 27, 2014 3:28 pm

What a nice world we leave in!
A fellow kiter who finds a board and keeps it for himself...

Something must have gone seriously wrong somewhere.

Let his Karma do the job and call the police but I have my doubt they will do anything.

Good luck.
Sonnyrider
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Tue May 27, 2014 3:29 pm

I have the board in my possession. Because I took it off him

The board was left on the beach whilst I went out for 15mins on my surfboard. I wasn't paying attention, because there were a few kiters around and have done this many times.
I was only playing in the waves as they were nice on the high tide at the time. I was only going out 100m or so, then coming back in working on my bottom turns and gybes.


I don't feel like giving a finders fee because he made no attempt to reunite the board with me. If he had, then for sure. He was going to use it the day I saw him with it :roll:

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Can I be arsed? Will he learn?

Unfortunately I am leaning towards doubtful :oops: :? :(
chalks
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Tue May 27, 2014 3:33 pm

JGTR wrote:
It blows my mind that this guy honestly thinks he should do anything but say 'mea culpa' and hand it back.
Exactly
Exactly x 2
BrightonSurf
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Tue May 27, 2014 3:35 pm

The fact that he does not just hand it back to you like a decent person would suggest he is basically a dodgy C**t. I would just report it to the police or take it back off him when he leaves it on the beach unattendend.
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rakeem15
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Tue May 27, 2014 3:54 pm

Sonnyrider wrote:I have the board in my possession. Because I took it off him
Well that's good.

In which case I'd probably not bother going to the police but I would at least tell all the other kiters to watch out for him at your local spot when he's around.
bri
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Tue May 27, 2014 4:06 pm

If you have the board I'd leave it at that
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Wed May 28, 2014 9:14 pm

from what you've said he hasn't complied with the salvage laws as he didn't declare it and there are offences there, the theft act is also definitely applicable. It's up to you how you resolve it, you've got your board back and going down the legal route will just be grief for all involved and tie up resources that could be used elsewhere.........I'm sure karma will play out in your favour in the end!

If you need more information: https://www.gov.uk/wreck-and-salvage-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; & http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-home/e ... report.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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