Woo - Kiteboarder League?

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Tone
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I am also doubting the accuracy.

I was out yesterday and a few gusts had me maxed on my 7 on butterflat water, one of my jumps was high, real high and a few commented on it. one of those jumps where you whip the kite forward and back a couple of times before landing. Registered 8.5m.

I can jump 10m most days if I am powered up and this felt a hell of a lot higher.

Makes me wonder if smaller kites with the more aggressive lift have a negative effect on the reading.

My highest jump to date @ 11.9m was on a 15m Flysurfer sonic in 20 knots, on a 7m, even when lit up like christmas and feeling like I am going to the moon, my highest is something like 9m.
fdvj
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I'm inclined to belive you. I have noticed that the hang time element plays a huge role in the calculations. There is a guy with an edge who goes reasonably high but nothing special but gets good float, and therefore awarded a higher score. I also found that some of my biggest jumps that have gone bad and ended with drop outs do no register as high due to the reduced airtime.
Mike B
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I've had one session and I too was a bit underwhelmed.
10.7mts seemed like small change for where I was in my minds's eye. Take off the height of the wave (2 1/2 meters), the height of me (just under 2 meters) and possibly felt plausible.
I do think there is a technique to jumping with them.
Maybe not using waves at all, just small kickers (and a deadman at the top... lol). Only the dude that programs them knows the measuring process well enough.
Mike B
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Mike B wrote:I've had one session and I too was a bit underwhelmed.
Oh, and I snapped my favourite surfboard doing it too.
John.B
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Mike B wrote:
Mike B wrote:I've had one session and I too was a bit underwhelmed.
Oh, and I snapped my favourite surfboard doing it too.
Another one - you did one in at Windfest! You really should be using a TT... the US ;-)
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John.B wrote:Another one
- ah, I know...
All the concentration in going up, neglecting the art of coming down..
I took out a TT but could not get enough of an angle and pop into the waves.
Session 2 will be a bit more focussed. Off to tenerife in a few weeks.
John.B
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Mike B wrote: Off to tenerife in a few weeks.
Very jealous. You need to take the Woo and head to Pigs for an early session I think gauging height there is a bit easier being so close to the shore and rocks :shock:
matt_s
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Finally managed to get out with mine and actually switch it on properly after leaving it flashing on Standby last session. It was gusty as hell so a bit hit and miss, but managed a few decent jumps & a best of 12.1m which I'm pretty happy with. A bit more speed & power plus a decent kicker & hopefully I should be able to beat it. It would be gutting to get a best ever on the first session lol!
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thats a good height for the first session!
badgb21
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I know a guy who has over 20ft and I've never seen him go over head high! I'm going to borrow his ;)
Tone
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we've got people round my way lending their boards to better riders and claiming the jumps as theirs!!!
badgb21
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Ha, That would be like dropping your GPS into a speed boat!

Tone wrote:we've got people round my way lending their boards to better riders and claiming the jumps as theirs!!!
Filthy
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So it appears everyone has spent £150 on a dodgy bit of kit that doesn't do what it says it will? I suppose there no way of saying it's wrong...not bad at all really!!
doggy
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We have found it to be not that accurate as well, took one out the other day and on some of the bigger jumps it still registered similar height to the smaller ones, we took photos to compare the two and you can see from the photos the bigger ones were higher than the woo suggested.

I think it seems to work ok when launching off the flat but when going off the wave I think it struggles to know when you have actually taken off, I think it also struggles when you get a second boost mid jump and also when you have finished the initial lift and continue to float up higher.

Pics of some of the jumps: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 271&type=3
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Comparing height based on photo's taken from shore is not accurate either unless you used a buoy to jump from exact the same place off course.

I Placed 2 Woo's (same firmware) on top of each other and made jumps in both flat water and waves, result were surprisingly similar over the different Woo's. Both small (3m) and big (>10m) jumps. Same with airtime. So at least that shows that IF they so something wrong with integration....each woo makes the same mistake. (although 2 devices is not a real significant pool)

However, indeed I also question sometimes how accurate the height measurement itself is. Sometimes people say that I jumped much higher than another person while the Woo only gives 0.5m difference.....on the other hand....how accurate can humans estimate the height...no idea.

A teamrider made a 15.9m jump in waves and had 9.1 seconds airtime, shot it on camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65L6YgT ... s_digest-g
The jump goes fast up....then in a slower curve up, the way down contained 2 helicopter loops and a slight lift in the second one...still the airtime in the movie corresponds with that in the Woo so that also seems correct....again that does not proof it is always correct, just that it did some good recording (time wise) in these circumstances.

I do agree that they could do more to proof the technology is correct in different circumstances, on the other hand.....even with tons of proof some people will never believe they dont make 20m jumps ;-)
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